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housecat87 · 2012-03-28, 13:18:05

lol, after chopping your hands off u should take up jogging, will clean out the lungs n at least you wont wanna smoke for a few hours after. maybe watch those videos they used to show in school to scare kids away from smoking with ppl with holes in their neck. also dont watch mad men.

Evangelink · 2012-03-28, 14:07:33

Moaned about this elsewhere, but getting a mortgage in London is god damn expensive, and likely to erase the last remnants of my youth.

aidan_h · 2012-03-28, 14:54:32

mortgage, yikes. we started saving for same a few months back. i'm not afraid of many things, but the idea of a 30-year loan gives me the creeps.

Radio Ladio · 2012-03-28, 23:01:26

The first 3 weeks are the hardest, after that it's 'easier'. Just become a hermit for a month or so, so you won't be tempted to smoke while drinking. That said, it's definitely not easy. Just keep reminding yourself why you're quitting every time you want one, and how bad you will feel even if you do have one.

sushilnash · 2012-03-29, 00:26:53

(2012-03-28 23:01:26)Radio Ladio Wrote: The first 3 weeks are the hardest, after that it's 'easier'. Just become a hermit for a month or so, so you won't be tempted to smoke while drinking. That said, it's definitely not easy. Just keep reminding yourself why you're quitting every time you want one, and how bad you will feel even if you do have one.

Thanks man. Yeah, this is my thinking. I actually went out for drinks for a couple of hours this evening after work but only drank coke 'cause I knew as soon as I had a pint that would be it. Just don't want to make something that's already hard even harder.

Glad you think this is sensible because when I was at work this afternoon, I told a colleague that I might not see my friends for a drink 'cause I'd be tempted to smoke and she basically told me I was a fucking idiot refusing to socialise because I couldn't find the will power to stop.

That said, I did make plans (before I decided to quit) to see a friend for boozy drinks tomorrow and I'm in a right quandary about that :/

Oh well, thanks for the advice, I think it was therapeutic writing this :)

Radio Ladio · 2012-03-29, 09:05:38

Also, one of my mates use Alan Carr's quit smoking podcast/ audiobook. Personally I can't stand the man, but it worked really well apparently.

R0B0 · 2012-03-29, 09:23:34

^ Does that work because it associates smoking to the sound of his annoying voice?

Also, good luck @sushilnash.

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Why do some people think it's okay to come into a pub and let their children run wild?
Some people meaning everyone in this village.

Seriously, they're are coming into what is effectively my house and taking the piss. I can't tell them to shove it either because I need the money/good word of mouth.

Evangelink · 2012-03-29, 10:43:16

^ actually one of my biggest grievances as well. Nobody wants to be the guy who tells other peoples kids off, but some people let them act like complete shits, especially on the underground. Horrible kid stomped on my new, freshly polished brogues the other week, didn't give a shit and neither did his parents.

(2012-03-28 14:54:32)aidan_h Wrote: mortgage, yikes. we started saving for same a few months back. i'm not afraid of many things, but the idea of a 30-year loan gives me the creeps.

Yep, it's very scary to think about it. So many other charges to think about as well as the mortgage- council tax, insurances, water, electricity. Almost easier and cheaper just to rent/live in a shoebox.

PaoloTramezzani · 2012-03-29, 11:05:13

why don't you go feral/live in a cave for a year or so? live off the land, there's some lovely spots in England...

that reminds me of a recent gripe, on a walk around the peak district, vaguely following a suggested route we get to one of the 'landmarks' or photo opps, this cave, and there's a couple sat in there having a bloody picnic! they had a dog too, not that i have anything against the dog, of the 3 the dog was my favourite, but they didn't even say 'alright' or 'good morning' just sat there staring at us

i felt like i'd been caught looking through someone's living room window!

so we just wandered off sheepishly, they were lucky i was all serene from the beautiful surroundings or i would have... still done nothing but that's not the point

aidan_h · 2012-03-29, 11:39:39

i don't think anchorman is the best thing ever but i don't hate it but i'm already bored of people's reaction to the news of a sequel. one good thing about facebook's "11 friends are posting about anchorman" grouping is that i don't have to all those posts in isolation.

Evangelink · 2012-03-29, 12:23:46

(2012-03-29 11:05:13)PaoloTramezzani Wrote: but they didn't even say 'alright' or 'good morning' just sat there staring at us

Miserable bastards. That's the best thing about being in the country in my opinion, saying good morning to randoms.

PaoloTramezzani · 2012-03-29, 14:35:54

(2012-03-29 12:23:46)Evangelink Wrote:
(2012-03-29 11:05:13)PaoloTramezzani Wrote: but they didn't even say 'alright' or 'good morning' just sat there staring at us

Miserable bastards. That's the best thing about being in the country in my opinion, saying good morning to randoms.

exactly, they very nearly harshed my buzz

Guy (Boratto?) · 2012-03-29, 21:08:21

just thought i'd chime in and say buying a house right now is a terrible idea. property was the bubble that caused this recession. big money won't be speculating on property any more and that means as soon as the government can no longer afford to keep the property market afloat (won't be long now imo) house prices will take a real nosedive.

aidan_h · 2012-03-29, 22:10:34

fyi i'll be saving for a few years and also i don't live in your country but thanks

Evangelink · 2012-03-30, 07:12:05

(2012-03-29 21:08:21)Guy (Boratto?) Wrote: just thought i'd chime in and say buying a house right now is a terrible idea. property was the bubble that caused this recession. big money won't be speculating on property any more and that means as soon as the government can no longer afford to keep the property market afloat (won't be long now imo) house prices will take a real nosedive.

Like Aidan, I'm stil a way from actualy doing it, probably another year, but thanks. The governments new schemes certainly seem aimed at keeping the new-build market moving Two questions for you sir-
1. Are we in a 'property bubble' at the moment? Prices don't seem '08 crazy?
2. Is the risk on properties in a London postcode the same as for the rest of the country?

Perhaps should understand the uk property market a bit better. I could probably talk for longer about the economy of South Sudan than I could the UK, which seems stupid.

Radio Ladio · 2012-03-30, 09:03:30

I work for a property/ asset management company and everyone I speak to is having to reduce their asking prices by £10-20K sometimes even more. At the moment, it's definitely a 'buyer's market', you just have to think about how long you're going to want to stay there. It might be at least 5 years before prices go back up. All depends on whether you see it as an investment property or somewhere you'll be happy to stay for over 5 years or so.

Evangelink · 2012-03-30, 09:29:41

Thanks man. I'd definitely be staying in the property I've got my eye on for five years. Thing is it is a new build. I know that I'll be paying over the odds initially for it, greatening the risk of negative equity, but it's in an area that is on the up, lots of regeneration projects etc, so I'm hoping it will at least hold it's value by the time I plan to move further out of London.

But as I said, still a while to go before I actually move, so will be monitoring the prices round the area and that, and seeing what's happening on the market given Guy's sobering advice!

PaoloTramezzani · 2012-03-30, 09:43:13

i'm giving it a couple of years... see if the arse properly falls out of the world economy, hopefully obama gets back, he'll be more 'flexible' for the following 4 years

aidan_h · 2012-03-30, 13:38:43

(2012-03-30 09:03:30)Radio Ladio Wrote: All depends on whether you see it as an investment property or somewhere you'll be happy to stay for over 5 years or so.

that's the other thing - i'm buying a house to live in, and i don't ever really want to move tbh so once i've got a house i'm staying put

murray888 · 2012-03-30, 15:40:47

(2012-03-29 11:39:39)aidan_h Wrote: i don't think anchorman is the best thing ever but i don't hate it but i'm already bored of people's reaction to the news of a sequel. one good thing about facebook's "11 friends are posting about anchorman" grouping is that i don't have to all those posts in isolation.

Exactly this.

Also I am looking forward to getting a mortgage. At least your money's going into your own investment. At the moment I'm getting seriously twisted at the thought of all my hard-earned lining someone else's pocket.

Now's probably the ideal time to buy if you can afford it (assuming you want an actual house rather than an investment, as has been mentioned).

That said, I'm a looooong way off affording a deposit yet.

Guy (Boratto?) · 2012-03-31, 18:42:50

there are differing views on the property market, of course the classical economists think that the prices will go back up to where they 'naturally' were pre-recession.

in my opinion big money has had its fingers burned by speculating on property and won't re-invest but will find something else to speculate on (gold is looking likely). which means if the govt stops desperately trying to cushion falling property prices - as will happen if there's a second dip in this recession - we'll see the real value of property...

classical economists don't generally go along with that view though

but classical economists also think it makes sense cutting the upper tax rate to 45%

-_-

Evangelink · 2012-04-02, 08:49:15

^ thanks Guy, interesting.

My girlfriend said I look like Inspector Gadget wearing my new mac. Which isn't the look I was going for.

soundboz · 2012-05-03, 05:13:56

> spend 2 weeks studying the origins, insertions, and functions for ~200 muscles for a lab final because professor insists that it is very important and will be covered extensively on the exam
> only one question out over this material

~____~

murray888 · 2012-05-03, 12:06:32

But you know them all now...which, after all, is the purpose of education.

rollie · 2012-05-03, 18:30:15

(2012-03-29 09:05:38)Radio Ladio Wrote: Also, one of my mates use Alan Carr's quit smoking podcast/ audiobook. Personally I can't stand the man, but it worked really well apparently.

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