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Boon2 · 2011-11-01, 12:24:35

So I'm looking at a new mixer for £250 - £350 to go with my pair of Technics. Have some decent speakers and an amp at the moment but may consider some monitors as well in future (probably a bit overkill for home use?!)

Choices for me are:

- Xone:22

Has record and booth outputs and nice filters. Have read about filter 'pop' though?

- DJM 350

Has the USB recording feature for ripping my vinyl. Anyone know how the ADC quality is when compared to something like an external audio interface? Has no booth output though.

- DJM 250

Cheap and with independent channel filters. Has no booth or record.

- Second hand DJM 500/600

For all-round more features

Think I'm sold on the Xone:22 for quality alone. Not massively fussed about too many effects but the recording feature of the DJM 350 has caught my eye.

How is ripping vinyl / recording otherwise and can you do it well on a mixer with no record out (using the master?)

Anyone used any of the above and able to disuade me away from the A&H?

Thanks in advance!

G-Unit · 2011-11-01, 16:15:27

Pepito · 2011-11-01, 17:25:17

(2011-11-01 16:15:27)G-Unit Wrote:

I 2nd that.

JayPlay · 2011-11-01, 17:31:05

I, personally, would go with djm-250 or xone:22. Im a huge filter user though. The record out is cool on the 350, but the master effects are useless to me. If u need to record your sets I think AH is the way to go and thats coming from a pioneer owner and lover.

Lemonick · 2011-11-01, 17:32:08

the nuo 2 is indeed very very good.

G-Unit · 2011-11-01, 18:06:29

The Nuo 2 has better EQs and faders than the A&H, and it has more input & output options.

The A&H has filters.

Your move.

Digital Glasses · 2011-11-01, 18:23:37

G-Unit · 2011-11-01, 20:07:38

No no no no no no no.

Behringer make horrible mixers. While the 4000 is their only half-decent attempt, it'll still make WAVs sound like 128s.

Claude Perdu · 2011-11-01, 20:19:57

I hate Pioneer's low-end mixers, feel like toys. If they'd be a few hundred cheaper they'd be worth the price.

I'd go for the Nuo. Don't forget it has a send/return which means you could add an fx box with filters afterwards.

Digital Glasses · 2011-11-01, 22:13:09

(2011-11-01 20:07:38)G-Unit Wrote: No no no no no no no.

Behringer make horrible mixers. While the 4000 is their only half-decent attempt, it'll still make WAVs sound like 128s.

It's such a shame that people write off this mixer because it's made by behringer. It's totally understandable, after all the DJX series was god awful and every other behringer product I've ever used wasn't worth buying.

From experience, the quality of the audio is very high, certainly high enough for a bedroom or party set-up. It could probably hold its own in a small club but it'll never be the industry standard mixer. But you're not buying it because it's the best, you're buying it because it's the most you can get for your money. It's a 4 channel digital mixer with effects, a sampler and midi capability for less than £300. I ended up using mine as a midi-controller for traktor before selling it on. Never had any problems.

imo, it's easily the best mixer you can get at this price range.

Check out some reviews

Claude Perdu · 2011-11-01, 22:25:45

More isn't always better.

I'd rather spend 300 on a mixer with 2 merely two channels, an EQ, good sound and a sturdy build than on a mixer with 8 channels, 300 effects and 3 samplers that could crap out on me any time.

This opinion is due to owning Numark Axis 9's, if only I knew better at the time...

G-Unit · 2011-11-01, 23:06:03

+1.

I've used that DDM4000, and it's not a patch on the simple A&H/Ecler mixers in the price range.

Pepito · 2011-11-01, 23:12:47

I have a nuo 3 and boy, the sound quality on it shines.

Like G-Unit said, the faders and EQ's are amazing.

I have heard that the xone 22 cross fader starts bleeding only after a few uses.

Ecler is a rock solid mixer.

R0B0 · 2011-11-03, 15:26:49

I have Digital Glasses' old DDM4000... Bought it two years or so ago and it works perfectly fine. Haven't had a single problem yet. Still using it quite a lot too.

I have played with the Nuo before and it is lurrrvley.

The 350's A/D, D/A converter quality is thusly: 48kHz/24bit - Which I believe is WAV quality recording.
Recording from the master channel to your computer on any normal mixer would require you to get an external soundcard to reach that quality. (I think that's what you were asking RE: recording wasn't it?)

rickman · 2011-11-12, 21:23:32

Instead of starting a new thread I thought I'd hijack this one.

I'm gonna be buying a 4-channel mixer sooner or later, on a budget of £300ish. I've got a pair of CDJ's and turntables, and I don't see myself using anything other than that in the foreseeable future. The only thing I'm really bothered about is having high sound quality with decent sounding EQ's, having been using the DJX700 for the past few years I'm sick of unclean sounding transitions.

I'm currently looking at the Behringer DDM4000 and the Denon DN-X1500S. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations for me?

Thanks :)

Claude Perdu · 2011-11-12, 22:20:16

Get a Nuo 3, should suffice.

time to get grimey · 2011-11-12, 22:32:33

if i had to choose btw brands alone it would be denon alll the way in ur case

matz8916 · 2011-11-13, 09:25:05

I has a xone 22 and for the price I have nothing but good things to say about it. Solid, i like the 100% eq kill unlike pioneers and well the filter is cool still no fancy effects but honestly if its just mixing effects wont make you a better dj.

Onehellofarunonsentence............

The only thing i have an issue with is that there is no power button and that you have to unplug it. But that is def not enough to dismiss this great gizmo.

Claude Perdu · 2011-11-13, 13:57:18

Lol A&H seem to have the habit of fucking one crucial thing up

G-Unit · 2011-11-13, 18:17:09

(2011-11-12 21:23:32)rickman Wrote: Instead of starting a new thread I thought I'd hijack this one.

I'm gonna be buying a 4-channel mixer sooner or later, on a budget of £300ish. I've got a pair of CDJ's and turntables, and I don't see myself using anything other than that in the foreseeable future. The only thing I'm really bothered about is having high sound quality with decent sounding EQ's, having been using the DJX700 for the past few years I'm sick of unclean sounding transitions.

I'm currently looking at the Behringer DDM4000 and the Denon DN-X1500S. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations for me?

Thanks :)

Do you often use more than 2/3 channels at a time? If not, get a good quality 2 channel mixer instead of a bad 4 channel.

Otherwise, save up a bit more, any decent 4 channels are £400+, A&H Xone 42 or the Ecler Nuo 4.0 are probably the best in that price range.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/ecler_nuo_40.ht...e58e2f33b3

rickman · 2011-11-13, 18:40:56

Yeah, you know what, that makes a world of sense. Forgot I can just plug everything in and switch between line/phono when I want. Now I feel like a twat.

Gonna save a bit and go with the Xone 32 for some filter action and a bit of flexibility. Thanks guys!

Claude Perdu · 2011-11-13, 18:51:31

Hmmm Xone 32 isn't the most practical thing out there... The gains are behind the mixer lol.

G-Unit · 2011-11-13, 23:50:51

Allen & Heath baffle me. Every mixer is a completely different layout. I don't get it. If they weren't so awkward they'd definitely be the club standard, the only reason Pioneer are is because everything is in the same place on all their mixers.

matz8916 · 2011-11-14, 00:38:25

Btw isn't there a music store that you can go to, just so you can see the layouts of the ones we be suggestin? :S

G-Unit · 2011-11-14, 01:16:38

Thomann